Near the end of an almost hour-long conversation about race, equity, the healthcare industry and its systems — and where they all intersect but often fail to truly connect — John Gregory makes the point he most wants you to take away by asking the most fundamental question: 'What systemic change will this make?' Gregory has been working to bring change to systems — societies, really — for a quarter century, if not his whole life. He's done that through building partnerships and bringing people together. And the 'this' here is another partnership, this time with Abbott — the first anchor sponsor of the American Diabetes Association's (ADA) Health Equity Now (HEN) platform — the ADA and Gregory's National Center for Urban Solutions (NCUS) to create the first community program under the HEN platform in Columbus, Ohio. Gregory is president of NCUS, a company started as a workforce operation to help get people off welfare and back on the job. 'We went to lots of meetings — lots of meetings — and all we heard about was problems,' Gregory said. 'And so I was like, hey, 'Where are the solutions?' ' And so he got busy finding them. In addition to NCUS, Gregory is also the founder of the African-American Wellness Agency, which has a mission to bring 'attention and awareness to African-American disparities in health,' Gregory said. In that work — and in this conversation — Gregory is joined by Dr. Joshua Joseph, MD, MPH, FAHA with expertise in endocrinology, diabetes and metabolism.